That episode should be required viewing.

No doubt about it,......(The) "bible" is BULLSHIT-!

That is awesome. I guess I am out of the loop (being a recent converted atheist)- I didn't know Penn and Teller were outspoken Atheists.
Sweet!

Right Jeremiah! Shermer states rightly about believer's dodges to overcome Biblical nonsense.Would that more atheist celebreties would speak out thusly. If others only knew that Lance Armstrong and Angelina Jolie do their goodworks, because that is right rather than God says do it. Maybe others would have a better opinion of us, if they knew more of us.

Maybe others would have a better opinion of us, if they knew more of us.

skeptic griggsy: Great point.

Don't forgot Bill Gates & Warren Buffet--both atheists. The Gates Foundation--with the help of a recent $40 billion donation from Buffet--are trying to eradicate AIDs in Africa in our lifetime--among other endeavors. They do it because it's the right thing to do and without divine guidance--go figure.

The man and the long hair thing in the Bible was funny :).

They keep propagating this idea that Josephus wrote about Jesus. That is a lie. Josephus didn't write about any Jesus because he (Jesus) never existed. The Josephus passages are not quoted until the 4th century! Wow, Josephus writes a short paragraph about Jesus and NOBODY in the next 200 years quotes it? Not even Origen who quoted Josephus several times????? Jesus never existed. There is NO evidence in the 1st century outside the Bible. Nada.

Tim

The central point of all arguments I have with christians these days are about the validity of the bible. That is the point that all arguments eventually revolve around for me. They don't worship god, they worship the bible. Take the bible away and you take their god away. They know this and will fight tooth and nail to keep it. They will twist their logic and reasoning into all sorts of pretzels in order to keep the bible as the foundation for their lives. Even my fundametalist brother-in-law agrees that if a christian questions even the literal interpretation of Genesis, then the whole thing falls apart.

So I no longer argue about the existence of god. I do what Penn and Teller do and attack the source of the nonsense, the inerrant word of god.

Also, since they only allow reasoning that is biblically based, then attacking the bible with the bible itself is essentially the only ammunition they give us. But at least it is easy to do. Read Thomas Paine's Age of Reason for great info on this.

i think you guys are all wrong you don't know what your talking i will stand up for my lord father jesus because i know he is real don't juge if you don't may you be forgiven of what ugly words come out of that mouth oh..... and if you think the bible is bullshit you probably don't even no any thing about it your just talk shit because you don't know anything so read it the devil is using you in his own way he wants to use you to him you are a toy he uses you to bring more people you may not belive but i do god with take care of you all i can do is try and help you out to go to the right path . (writen by a beliver)


*i'm a beliver*

(god in my savlor and you can't do any thing about it )

i belive in god and only god amen !!!! may god bless you all

"jesus is real", please take the time to learn to spell properly. The skill will serve you well in later life.

And then carefully read your Bible from cover to cover, the Old Testament as well as New, so that you are properly informed as to the monstrous and evil nature of the Biblical god. Leave nothing out, not a word of it.

But be aware that actually reading your Bible may destroy your faith.

You will learn that:

- The snake in the garden of Eden was actually the one who told the truth.

- Your god interfered with the free will of Pharaoh by "hardening his heart", thereby prolonging the captivity of the Israelites and deliberately setting up the outright murder of the firstborn of Egypt.

- Your god ordered the genocide of an entire people, the Amakalites... Men, women, and children.

- And Jesus lied when he said that the Second Coming would occur in the lifetime of his followers. That time is long, long gone and Jesus has not returned. If, indeed, he was ever here at all.

Astreja, that was a great response to "Jesus is real!!!!"....however, I think that post may've been a joke played out by one of our fellow Ex-ers. "god in my savlor"...?

LMAO! You guys!....you crack me up! Silly!

L.o.l., that is the biggest bunch of bullshit since the bible.

Listen to yourselves!

- And Jesus lied when he said that the Second Coming would occur in the lifetime of his followers. That time is long, long gone and Jesus has not returned. If, indeed, he was ever here at all.

The lifetime of his followers, neh? Well, I'm a follower. My children very well might be. My mother and father are. My great-grandmother is. Some of my friends are. Therefore, that argument is impudent and woefully incorrect.

(smacks the latest Anonymous upside the head with a clue-by-four) Sir or madam, were you there, in the flesh, in Israel circa 33 C.E., when Jesus supposedly spoke the following words:

“There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28)

You weren't there? You weren't even born yet?

I'll break this to you as gently as I can, Anonymous. You are not a follower of Jesus. You never met the chap, and in fact would probably not be able to communicate with him if he was standing right in front of you. Unless you happen to be fluent in Aramaic, that is.

You are a follower of a religion based on a book which talks about someone named Jesus.

Who lied when he said he was coming back.

Probably because the Biblical version of Jesus is just a character in a storybook. The character may indeed be based on a real person, but that is yet to be proven; in fact, there is currently a research project underway to determine if such a man ever existed.

A critical comparative reading of all four Gospels reveals a story that is inconsistent from author to author, and which is therefore unlikely to be an accurate portrayal of a real person. In there you will find a mixture of common-sense proverbs, a revitalization of the Canaanite "good cop" god El and a downplaying of his "bad cop" son Yahweh, and recycled resurrected-god mythology from all around the Eastern Mediterranean.

I did like this line, 'tho: "...the biggest bunch of bullshit since the bible." You do have a point. No matter how silly we manage to get here at Ex-C, it's unlikely we will ever be able to top the Bible for sheer volume of bullshit.

ok here it is... George Carlin said it best. Religion has people believing that theres an invisible man... living in the sky... and he has ten things that he doesnt want you to do, and if you do any of these things... he has a special place, full of fire and brimstone and smoke and torture and pain and anguish where he will send you to live for all eternity where you will choke and writhe and suffer and burn and scream and cry .... but he loves you... and he needs money.

The bible = an interpretation of a ancient vision mixed with Babylonian and esoteric history..

I wont say the bible is bullshit nor that it isnt... but its a fact that some sayings in the bible are wrongly interpreted...
Imagen what Josephus would interpret if he hears the phrase "icing on the cake"......